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Amazon ad program promotes David Duke, David Irving

January 27th 2007 00:03
Imagine visiting a blog you contribute to. On the side: A set of Amazon ads featuring a David Duke book. The next day, another David Duke book. A day or two later, a book by Holocaust denier David Irving.

That's what life has been like for me with Robert's Rationale (though I hope most of you have started reading Orble-based The Rationale instead). I e-mailed Amazon support a couple of days ago, but they didn't get back to me. I took all my Amazon ads down; I haven't sold a single book since joining anyhow.

The funny thing is that I tend to write about America's racial problems, which focus on the black/white/Hispanic tension. I've mentioned both David Duke (I think it's hilarious he lives in New Orleans) and Holocaust denial (the media does a terrible job of covering it), but most of my race writing has concerned immigration, diversity, IQ, poverty and the like.

In slight defense of Amazon, here's how the ads work. A computer program reads my blog, matches the topics to various books Amazon sells and places ads for those books on my site. Again, I write about race on a fairly frequent basis, though from nothing resembling David Duke or David Irving's perspectives. So it's not like an Amazon employee picked out "My Awakening" as a great book to market.

I'm certainly not saying Amazon should shy away from selling controversial or even racist books; people researching those subjects need access to them. But when a program selects products to promote, Amazon should remove such fare from the pool.

Not only does it make client sites look bad. It makes Amazon, in effect, promote hateful material.

What's scariest is that Jew-run blogs probably experience the same thing, particularly if they talk about the KKK or the Holocaust often.

Since I killed my Amazon ads, you can't confirm this yourself. However, I made a PDF of my blog's homepage with two David Duke books promoted on it. E-mail me at robertv4311[at]gmail.com for an attachment.

Robert VerBruggen blogs at http://www.therationale.com.

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Comment by Anonymous

January 27th 2007 13:07
David Irving publishes hate material? Can you refer me to the place in his 70,000 pages of books where you find hate material?

Comment by Robert V

January 27th 2007 13:49
I dunno, try the speech where he denied gas chambers existed at Auschwitz (very cute, with the words "publishes" and "books"). I don't think Austria should have thrown him in jail for it, but that's certainly hateful.

On his books, by the way:

"[Civil trial lawyer] Evans spent two years examining Irving's work, and presented evidence of Irving's misrepresentations, including that Irving had knowingly used forged documents as a source."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial#David_Irving_and_the_Lipstadt_Affair

In "Hitler's War," he claims Hitler had no knowledge of the Holocaust.

In his (somewhat) defense, he says he no longer denies the Holocaust, and that the Nazis did murder millions of Jews.

Do you honestly believe his books sell, at this point, purely on their historical merits, whatever those may be?

Comment by Tom Metzger

January 27th 2007 18:32
Silly boy! All rapist should be imprisoned but black on white rape is attempted genocide and should be dealt with by ONE IN THE HEAD ONE IN THE HEART.
As far as Duke and Irving books on Amazon. You should be thrilled. It lets the steam off and slows down the move toward my solution by any means possible.
Social Marxists never recognize when they are well off. The more that is censored and suppressed the easier my job becomes. The Insurgent resist.com

Comment by Robert V

January 27th 2007 19:12
On censorship: There is a difference between government suppression and a private company choosing not to carry and/or promote deeply immoral and offensive viewpoints like yours.

On rape as genocide: Rape is rape. It is a crime against an individual, not a race. Under your criteria the bigger problem is depositing semen in the "wrong" place, not forcing sex (the first gets death, the second imprisonment). I don't think any rape victim of any race would agree.

And even if we accept your bizarre value judgment that interracial breeding is wrong somehow (if anything, empirically, it diversifies the gene pool and makes rare diseases rarer -- and there's a body of work that indicates humans consider interracial people more attractive), wouldn't the individual's intense anguish overcome the minor net genetic "problem" in severity?

I'm fine with the death penalty for rape, albeit with a higher burden of proof than currently required*, but only if applied equally.

*Guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, without using visual IDs from people who didn't know the defendant beforehand. Many wrongful convictions come about when a victim positively identifies the wrong person -- this is convincing to a jury but often incorrect, especially across racial lines.

Comment by Anonymous

January 27th 2007 21:51
"I dunno" is a bit vague. Once again, I challenge you to cite a hateful statement in his prolific works. As to Evans, he was a well paid witness on behalf of Lipstadt. I would urge you to be wary of anything that someone says for money. The judge found a little over a dozen "facts" that he said showed "denial", not a lot of facts out of over 70,000 pages entered as testimony in the record! Rebut Irving's statements on gas chambers, but assert some facts, not insults. He is often misquoted on the subject. He makes it clear that the gas chamber on display at Auschwitz is a fake built after WWII. Poland admits that; it was just to enhance the tourist attraction. As to a gas chamber before the fake was built, Irving says that he has never seen any convincing evidence. Many have made the claim, but no one has located the fact that would prove it. Since the Germans were fanatical record keepers (among their many fanaticisms), it is curious that they are no blueprints, letters, etc. on the gas chamber. Show some evidence, and Irving will cede you the point. I just do not see the hate. I see the dispute on what some would like to sell as history, but I do not see the hate. Please show me.

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